Categories for deletion/Log/2005 September 5

== September 5 ==

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Keep. 21:05, 14 September 2005 (UTC)

The results of the previous CFD nomination were that the mass media-related categories needed to be tidied up, but not necessarily deleted. After doing the cleanup, there are only 6 subcategories and 1 article in this category. Should we merge 22:29, 5 September 2005 (UTC)

*Don t merge. News media is a category for newspapers, newsmagazines, news web sites, etc., and to dfferentiate broadcast journalism from print journalism, for example.This deserves its own category. As a compromise, if you want to take it out of Mass media, I could go along with that. 00:39, 6 September 2005 (UTC)

*Keep. Category has six populated subcategories; 18:32, 6 September 2005 (UTC)

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No consensus (no change). 21:05, 14 September 2005 (UTC)

*Reason: POV title, and too narrow, too. Eg., 21:56, 5 September 2005 (UTC) *Rename to 00:55, September 6, 2005 (UTC) *Delete. Moguls is slanguage; like having the opposite as 02:02, 6 September 2005 (UTC) *Keep. Most of these people belong here. I don t think there is a better term for what they are. This is what they are commonly called. If you can come up with a better name than 08:36, 6 September 2005 (UTC) *Rename per NPOV. 18:34, 6 September 2005 (UTC) *Note No consensus; ren 2/5; ren 1/5; keep 1/5; del 1/5; If an article does not belong in a cat, then simply re-cat it. 00:36, 12 September 2005 (UTC) *Keep. Remove 17.49 September 2005 (UTC)

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No consensus (no change). 21:05, 14 September 2005 (UTC)

*Reason: POV title, and too narrow, too. 21:56, 5 September 2005 (UTC) *Rename to 00:55, September 6, 2005 (UTC) *Rename to 18:36, 6 September 2005 (UTC)

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No consensus (no change). 21:05, 14 September 2005 (UTC)

This category details items of news and methods of journalism. This is redundant with 21:47, 5 September 2005 (UTC) *Keep - Current events is just for current events, News is for items of news over the years. There are a large number of subcategories too. Underused, but useful. 21:52, 5 September 2005 (UTC)

But every item of information in the entire encyclopedia was an item of news when it was first discovered or occurred. Anyway, it looks like older articles from 22:12, 5 September 2005 (UTC)

*Delete. News over the years is better served by the various history categories that exist. 00:16, 6 September 2005 (UTC) *Delete. Redundant. - 00:55, September 6, 2005 (UTC) *Keep News over the years is nonsensical; if it s notable it can be categorized some better way, and articles notable mostly for being new should be merged on wikipedia or transwiki ed to wikinews. However, this category serves as a parent for 18:46, 6 September 2005 (UTC) *Weak keep. -- Reinyday, 02:55, 7 September 2005 (UTC)

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Speedy deleted. 21:05, 14 September 2005 (UTC)

Accidental creation. I searched for it and couldn t find what I was pretty sure already existed...then found it later. This is an unnecessary duplication of the already extant 21:25, September 5, 2005 (UTC)

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Merge. 21:05, 14 September 2005 (UTC)

Similar categories. (U.S. state) is the category already categorized and heavily populated.

Merge (see the reason I listed above). 20:46, 5 September 2005 (UTC)

*Speedy merge as a recreation. We had this already — it clearly needs to be given a . - 21:14, 5 September 2005 (UTC) *Merge and disambiguate. - 00:55, September 6, 2005 (UTC)

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Rename nominated only. 21:05, 14 September 2005 (UTC)

We shouln t expect readers to be familiar with acromynms unless they are the most commonly used term for the subject matter (like 20:32, 5 September 2005 (UTC) *Rename per nom. There s already a strong presumption against abbreviations in both article and category titles. In this particular case, the acronym is also shared by two high-profile institutions. - 21:21, 5 September 2005 (UTC) *Comment I doubt if anyone familiar with the London School of Economics will that that stocks are traded there. However, rather than tackling this one alone, we should consider doing a systematic rename of all of the sub-categories of to a single standard. At present we have the following categories: :# :# :# :# :# (even with out standardizing, this one needs a correction for the typo) :# :# :# :# :# :# :# :# :# :# :# :# :# The standard of the proposed change here would suit me fine, but having a single clear standard is more important than what that standard is. 21:36, 5 September 2005 (UTC)

*Rename. Abbreviations should be avoided. 00:03, 6 September 2005 (UTC) *Rename all except NASDAQ That s a familiar everyday word (I m not American), many people probably don t even realise it is an acronym, and as it is so long I doubt it is an acromym for anything other than - whatever it is an acronym for. Spelling it out would increase the obscurity. 00:17, 6 September 2005 (UTC) *Rename to Companies listed on ( exchange ), <ins>except 15:53, 7 September 2005 (UTC) *Rename but not NASDAQ, which is often written Nasdaq. The full version would be horrible and confusing. The same applies to Kosdaq, and SWX Swiss Exchange is long enough and clear enough already. But change the others. No preference on listed/traded. 22:02, 8 September 2005 (UTC) **Agree, but the all-caps 21:06, 9 September 2005 (UTC) *Someone might want to mark these for deletion or nothing is going to happen with them. -- 18:07, 9 September 2005 (UTC) **Suggest relisting the rest of the categories mentioned, as they were not marked, so they will not be changed. 21:05, 14 September 2005 (UTC)

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Rename. 21:05, 14 September 2005 (UTC)

This isn t a cultural category, and shouldn t think that anyone will have a problem with it being organised on state boundary lines. It is already in 19:50, 5 September 2005 (UTC) *Rename. Health, like Universities and colleges below, doesn t have a nationality , however we name the cats beneath it. - 21:21, 5 September 2005 (UTC) *Rename! -- Reinyday, 21:44, 5 September 2005 (UTC) *Rename. No argument. 00:16, 6 September 2005 (UTC)

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Delete. 21:05, 14 September 2005 (UTC)

Mis-placed nomination moved from 18:29:36, 2005-09-05 (UTC) *Delete Non standard form. 19:50, 5 September 2005 (UTC) *Delete empty. Porn starts appear to be cat d by country rather than vague geographic region. - 21:21, 5 September 2005 (UTC)

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Delete. 21:05, 14 September 2005 (UTC)

Mis-placed nomination moved from 18:29:36, 2005-09-05 (UTC) *Delete. Empty, parentless. 18:48, 6 September 2005 (UTC)

=== (Employee section)===

No change, not a valid Cfd. 21:05, 14 September 2005 (UTC)

*delete Employee section. The Infobox for this article already contains the relevant bio info. #7. Wikipedia is not an indiscriminate collection of information: directories, directory entries, or a resource for conducting business. Wikipedia is not a company website. This information can easily be found on either the company website or in Adobes annual report. 17:31, 5 September 2005 (UTC) *Not sure what you re after here. Categories don t have sections, and there don t appear to be any employees in it. Have you already removed them - 21:21, 5 September 2005 (UTC)

Sorry, no I didn t remove, but I wasn t quite sure how to place the link, instead of mucking it up worse perhaps you can just tell me if I m way off base by taking a gander mid way down this link. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adobe_Systems Thanks, 00:02, 6 September 2005 (UTC)

**That would be the article, not the category. You can discuss this at the article s talk page, and if nobody complains about it, you can do it yourself. -- 15:41, 6 September 2005 (UTC)

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Delete. 21:05, 14 September 2005 (UTC)

Empty duplicate of 17:22, 5 September 2005 (UTC) *Speedy delete empty duplicate. - 23:21, 5 September 2005 (UTC)

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No consensus (no change). 21:05, 14 September 2005 (UTC)

A more detailed and comprehensive MLB Rookie of the Year Award already exists.

17:12, 5 September 2005 (UTC)

Keep but rename. There are many such awards. 17:15, 5 September 2005 (UTC)

*Comment. I know there are many such awards, but it is only one of 3 in 17:23, 5 September 2005 (UTC) **Rookie of the Year awards aren t unique to baseball. A category s name should make it clear what it covers, and this one doesn t. This name would only be correct for the parent category of a number of specific rookie of the year categories across all sports. Rename 19:50, 5 September 2005 (UTC) *Delete and list. 18:50, 6 September 2005 (UTC)

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Delete. 21:05, 14 September 2005 (UTC)

Not rooted in category tree, this category was born out of pure nationalism with the intention to replace the existing . Duplicate, confusing category.

delete - redundant, inflammatory name. -- ) 17:44, 5 September 2005 (UTC)

Delete, redundant, but rename 07:38, 6 September 2005 (UTC)

**Agree, that would be the best solution. We should have a macro that would automatically translate into Gdask/Danzig that would help us avoiding all these fights *Rename to , which will house contemporary people. -- Reinyday, 02:29, 7 September 2005 (UTC) **While this may seem tempting, this could induce potential conflicts over particular biographic articles, as the name of the city over different historic periods is continuously disputed, as a matter of POV. The disputes often result in intense revert-wars, as for certain persons it may be not obvious whether Gdask or Danzig should be used. Therefore it might save future unproductive conflicts to have the in a single, neutrally named category instead. -- ) 08:44, 7 September 2005 (UTC) *Comment: please see the related . -- Reinyday, 02:33, 7 September 2005 (UTC) *Delete per 07:49, September 7, 2005 (UTC) *Delete, POV split. In a spirit of linguistic compromise, rename existing category to Natives of Gdask (Danzig) . 12:31, 9 September 2005 (UTC)

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Rename. 21:05, 14 September 2005 (UTC)

Follwing the capitalisation of Bowling for Soup main article.

14:43, September 5, 2005 (UTC)

Hopefully, this is in context somewhere as the title by itself makes no sense whatsoever. 19:05, 5 September 2005 (UTC)

*Speedy per the speedy rules. - 21:21, 5 September 2005 (UTC) *Speedy. -- Reinyday, 21:48, 5 September 2005 (UTC)

=== (request for clarification)===

: Delete category and direct subcategories.

The votes so far have not provided the requested clarity. Please specify what you think should be done with the subcategories, and whether or not you think some or all images should be merged into Category:Nudity. -- 21:42, 5 September 2005 (UTC)

(Please note: I am neither supporting nor opposing the deletion of this category. -- 04:35, 5 September 2005 (UTC))

This category has been nominated for deletion several times. (The last discussion is 04:35, 5 September 2005 (UTC) *NB All keep/rename/delete decision at Wikipedia are based on a handful of votes at best. Out of a supposed 13,000 contributors, one is doing well to find ten weighing in on any topic. And most of those are regular denizens of this category, and often admins to boot (who should be neutral). I don t care whether it s kept or not - it seems rather spurious to me, but so does a lot of the stuff here - but it got as fair a shake as anything can at Wikipedia. Which is, admittedly, not saying much. 14:38, 5 September 2005 (UTC)

Delete It would be silly to make a censorship issue out of this, the category itself has no apparent use, and in any case is already covered by 15:28, September 5, 2005 (UTC)

:* Question If it s covered by Nudity, you want all those images recatigorized to Nudity rather than images containing 18:29, 5 September 2005 (UTC)

delete - useless category. -- ) 17:46, 5 September 2005 (UTC)

And the subcategories -- 21:42, 5 September 2005 (UTC)

*Delete. The category serves neither editors nor readers. - 21:21, 5 September 2005 (UTC)

And the subcategories -- 21:42, 5 September 2005 (UTC)

***I do apologise. I think delete all subcats too is only consistent. The 00:27, 6 September 2005 (UTC) *Delete the category and all of the subcategories. Attempt at censorship. Should I create a category, Images containing women s faces to help Muslim readers who don t want to see such things 22:06, September 5, 2005 (UTC)

I haven t been following the discussion, but my first assumption was the exact opposite of Zoe s — I figured the category was created by people who wanted to conveniently have a single meta-page on which to find their wiki-hosted porn. (no, really. i m not kidding.) In any event, I d say delete both the category and subcategory without recategorizing. 23:15, 5 September 2005 (UTC)

*Delete the main category, and three of the four subcategories. The ...containing nudity categories serve no purpose whatsoever other than prurience. As a Wikipedian, an arts reviewer, artist and - occasionally - nude model, I find the whole idea of these categories insulting. The whole concept s a little mad anyway, with images of the sistine chapel ceiling alongside medical file photos and soft porn - items which have virtually no connection with each other. strikes me as a separate issue from the other three, and wasn t an automatic subcategory of this one anyway, since you don t have to get completely nekkid to do da thang. As such, it should be debated separately. 00:22, 6 September 2005 (UTC) *Delete all. - 00:55, September 6, 2005 (UTC)

Keep - Aloha from Berlin 06:50, 6 September 2005 (UTC)

*Delete all. -- 15:34, 6 September 2005 (UTC) *Caution !!! see [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.phptitle=Wikipedia:Categories_for_deletion/Log/2005_September_5&diff=prev&oldid=22702715] 08:33, 7 September 2005 (UTC) **What caution This is a discussion about what to do with this category. What s the point of informing us that Commons has more stuff about nudity and sex -- 18:02, 9 September 2005 (UTC)

DO NOT MERGE into 19:14, 6 September 2005 (UTC)

Delete. Purposeless. -- 21:10, 8 September 2005 (UTC)

*Keep (cat and all subcategories). I had originally voted delete, but the subcategories cross the threshhold to genuinely useful (especially paintings and sexual acts). Maybe subcategorize a bit more finely either, though I don t have specific subcats in mind. 17:50, 2005 September 12 (UTC)

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Delete. 21:05, 14 September 2005 (UTC)

Redundant with 03:20, September 5, 2005 (UTC)

comment if it contained only ancient Geek stuff... 04:00, 5 September 2005 (UTC)

*comment: Chimera is singular, so even if the name in general is kept, it should be changed to either or 10:23, 5 September 2005 (UTC) (an ancient geek)

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Delete. 01:19, 12 September 2005 (UTC)

Filmmakers by nationality categories don t seem to be the the done thing, and I agree with that policy. I have moved the two articles this contained to 00:57, 5 September 2005 (UTC) *Delete 17:17, 5 September 2005 (UTC) *Delete as the merge is already done. 18:52, 6 September 2005 (UTC)

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Delete [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.phptitle=Special%3ALog&type=delete&user=&page=Category%3ADistricts+of+Kerela previously speedy deleted]. 01:16, 12 September 2005 (UTC)

Spelling error, already exists. No reason for soft redirect.

00:13, 5 September 2005 (UTC)

*Delete 17:16, 5 September 2005 (UTC) *Speedy as a simple speeling mistake. - 21:21, 5 September 2005 (UTC)