Minghong |
Hi Minghong,
21:45, Nov 16, 2004 (UTC)
= Relentless Reversion =
If you happen to disagree with something, don t remove it and demand I petition the talk page for it s re-inclusion. Leave the info there - and petition the talk page for its removal. You don t own the Firefox and Internet Explorer articles. Don t act like you do.
:Like what I said in the edit summary, you ignored my comment and that s not respecting me. You don t own the articles either, that s why in the comment I said go to talk page if you disgree with my edit. -- 23:46, 28 August 2005 (UTC)
::Don t try to turn this around. If you want to remove my addition on shaky grounds, then it s your job to petition the talk page first. This discussion is over. -- 22:32, 29 August 2005 (UTC)
How could anybody respect you You are showing a petty little mind with a hidden agenda here.
Let me ask you, where are you coming from, what is your background, what experience and education do you have, what lifelong interests and mind-forming events have made you into what you are
I think we have a right to understand where you are coming from and what agenda or interests drive you to edit wikipedia
11:08, 19 October 2005 (UTC)
:Read my user page to know more about me. Wikipedia is a place where 12:13, 19 October 2005 (UTC)
You are a young person who knows some about software and manga comics. You are actively fighting for open source software and the Firefox browser.
You don t mind using ugly methods and cynical views, which is typical of young men like you.
More than once have people complained about your relentless reversion mania. You are not doing any good for wikipedia with your actions, you drag down the level with your ruthless actions.
14:40, 19 October 2005 (UTC)
:I m out of this meaningless talk. Thess are simply personal attacks. -- 00:11, 20 October 2005 (UTC)
: Well said, Roger -- 22:09, 22 October 2005 (UTC)
= Type =
The ECMA specification states quite plainly that An object is a member of the type Object . My current experiences with JS indicate that a thorough understanding of the relationship between the terms Type , Primitive and Object is indispensible once you start to build an OE application with it. -- .
Failure to understand the nature of typing in JS is a major reason for buggy applications...
:So What article(s) are you talking about Or more specificly, what edit(s) -- 23:56, 29 August 2005 (UTC)
= Eh =
Say what JavaScript is NOT Javascript . In what way - 13:01, 15 Dec 2004 (UTC) :JavaScript is NOT Javascript. (Still can t see the difference It is an uppercase S .) - 13:07, 15 Dec 2004
= OS-tan pictures =
*Hi! I noticed that you uploaded 10:11, Jan 4, 2005 (UTC) **The images of Firefox-ko and Thunderbird-ko (edited and uploaded by me) were obtained from [http://cornervalley.net/rnote.phpu=illust/cg/040829.htm] and [http://cornervalley.net/rnote.phpu=illust/cg/040901.htm] respectively. I don t understand Japanese. But from the translation by Altavista, it should be ok to use them as long as it is not for profit: And clearly writing the fact that they are processed ones, it can release and can distribute those which reprinting, it distributed and processed only non profit-making purpose. The writer (the ろ or the ろ) it is not necessary to state name. It is not possible without obtaining my permission, to use those which it processed for profit-making purpose. Those which it processed the writer (the ろ or the ろ) it is not possible with name to release and to distribute and. .I m sorry but I can t find the source of Outlook one now. - 12:09, 6 Jan 2004
= Internet Explorer Article =
Your recent edits to the IE page have neatened it up a lot, and the article is looking in good shape these days. Keep up the good work -- 13:51, 22 Jan 2005 (UTC)
: Well... I m just trying to improve the quality of the page: something that every Wikipedian should do. That doesn t mean I m a pro-IE guy. So you can see I also put lots of negative stuffs about IE. 
- 13:56, 22 Jan 2005 (UTC)
:: I never suggested you were pro-IE 14:58, 22 Jan 2005 (UTC)
= Infobox Software Template =
Please watch what you are doing. Your removal of the caption attribute has left the box with } . If you want to fix that, change the template and all the instances where the caption variable is used, though since this is a major change, I d raise it on the template talk page first. 23:23, 24 Jan 2005 (UTC)
: Nah After removing the caption attribute, I ve edited all the pages that uses the Infobox Software template. Also, I m the one who raised it on the template talk page. I ve also 08:37, 25 Jan 2005 (UTC) :: [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.phptitle=Mozilla_Firefox&oldid=9625770 Yah]. :: Anyway, I think because you changed the template after you removed the option in the articles, and didn t purge the page from the cache, it was still using the old version and thus had the caption variable still on it. For future reference, to purge the page in the cache, so any changes to templates are brought forward, add &action=purge to the end of the url (eg http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.phptitle=Mozilla_Firefox&action=purge ). Thanks 08:59, 25 Jan 2005 (UTC) ::: Yup, you re right. I did that after . Thanks for your information! 10:30, 25 Jan 2005 (UTC)
:Ming, your unfounded accusations and obvious hatred for 09:12, August 9, 2005 (GMT)
::Ming, I am still waiting for your response on the 17:00, August 12, 2005 (GMT)
= Comparison of web browsers =
That s a good job on the article... Splitting tables is by no means fun, but it needed to be done. 15:01, Feb 4, 2005 (UTC)
:Yup, it was actually so troublesome that I had to duplicate the table and removed the columns cell by cell... Thanks for your appreciation! -- 18:17, 4 Feb 2005 (UTC)
= RDBMS =
While I like the list of RDBMSs, and I like the new content you ve added with the lists, I don t think you should have removed the small bit on Dataphor. There was some discussion about it on the talk page, and it would have been a good idea to run through that before making such a change. It wasn t placed in the article to enumerate the list of RDBMSs, but as a note it is by far the largest and most popular TRDBMS by those who make the disctinction between TRDBMSs and PRDBMSs. keep up the good work 21:13, 4 Mar 2005 (UTC)
:I removed it as there is no mention of other BIG vendors (e.g. Oracle). As the article is Relational database management system , it shouldn t focus on any particular vendor. Anyway, perhaps it should be mentioned as it is the one and only one that meets all Codd s rules . -- 21:18, 4 Mar 2005 (UTC)
=Microsoft Outlook=
If any of those viruses are specific to Outlook, they could go into the article, in their own problems with this system section 19:24, 5 Mar 2005 (UTC)
:Maybe add it into a criticism or security section (with description about the problem). You can take a look of 19:28, 5 Mar 2005 (UTC)
= Comparison of Internet forum software =
With your recent edits, the text in the boxes is not aligned properly. They should all be center aligned, not left. If your edits cannot be fixed, a revert will have to be made. 13:43, 11 Mar 2005 (UTC)
:It aligns properly under Firefox. Anyway, I ll try to fix it. The same problem seems to appear in other software comparison pages as well [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Software_comparison]. You may like to take a look, get a solution, and fix all of them. -- 13:47, 11 Mar 2005 (UTC)
:I fixed those issues. -- 15:30, 11 Mar 2005 (UTC)
= K-Meleon Page Zooming. =
I noticed that you ve reverted my edit to the page zooming capabilties to K-Meleon. Please check out . I know that text-zooming isn t page zooming, but K-Meleon can resize both text and images if you right-click on the zoom toolbar buttons, and select Zoom In/Out Page , or using the Ctrl,Alt,+/- keyboard shortcuts. The only problem is that K-Meleon appearently doesn t resize background images. The Wikipedia logo is actually a div with a background image, so it wouldn t resize.
:I see. I ve only tested with a page using background image. Feel free to change to partial then. -- 11:16, 13 Mar 2005 (UTC)
=Spelling corrections=
Thanks for the thought, but it s not necessary to [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.phptitle=User_talk:Ellmist/archive_1&curid=1449159&diff=0&oldid=0 make spelling corrections] on 12:51, 16 Mar 2005 (UTC)
= Instant messenger programs =
As you created the list, see the talk page of the list of instant messaging programs. I added an instant messaging client that wasn t listed, but wasn t sure which category to put it in, so hopefully you ll have a better understanding of the situation. 02:52, 19 Mar 2005 (UTC)
:Look like multi-protocol . I ve updated the list. 08:52, 19 Mar 2005 (UTC)
=Your revert of my talk page=
I do listen do the Wikipedians and I discussed the issues already. I ask you politely not to revert my talk page again. -- 11:17, Mar 19, 2005 (UTC)
:Good to see you not blanking your talk page. 11:29, 19 Mar 2005 (UTC)
The page was never blank- open task tag is always there. -- 11:42, Mar 19, 2005 (UTC)
=HKWNB, HKCOTW, Current events=
Hi. I noticed you have edited some Hong Kong-related articles. You might be interested to take a look at 12:09, Mar 21, 2005 (UTC)
:Thanks! I never know these pages. I ll try to improve the article if I m familiar about that topic. 
-- 12:28, 21 Mar 2005 (UTC)
= Revert on list of RDBMS =
On List of relational database management systems, you reverted a reordering with explanation:
:Well... many free DBMSes (especially MySQL) are not comparable with DBMS like Oracle
I don t understand how comparability is relevant... Please explain further to me. Thanks. 20:39, 23 Mar 2005 (UTC)
:Maybe 20:47, 23 Mar 2005 (UTC)
=GZIP=
Hi I believe you wrote the initial gzip article. I hope you can help me. I have downloaded the Windows version: gzip.exe, and want to unzip a file 7.gz (downloaded from ttp://netlib.bell-labs.com/netlib/polyhedra/)
How do I unzip it to get a file readable ideally by an MS Office application I have tried the following:
Run: cmd
c:/Download>gzip -d 7.gz {Note: gzip.exe and 7.gz are in c:/Download folder}
but this gives a file called 7 that is unreadable... at least, I don t know how to read it....
Thanks in advance for any help. 22:54, 8 Apr 2005 (UTC)
:Oops, you got it wrong. I m not the one who initial the gzip article. I personally don t use command-line programs much. So you better just type gzip to see its manual. -- 06:52, 9 Apr 2005 (UTC)
= Windows managers and Tabbed document interface =
Hello. Why did you join the list of 17:34, 12 Apr 2005 (UTC)
: Windows manager is also a program. -- 08:34, 13 Apr 2005 (UTC)
= Speedy delete =
The redirect page 13:16, 13 Apr 2005 (UTC)
= CSS Edits =
Your edits to 10:08, 17 Apr 2005 (UTC)
:Please stop editing the selectors, removing ones that should be there. You are not helping. If you want to help me, you can fill in the properties table below. 13:27, 18 Apr 2005 (UTC)
::Please don t revert without seeing what I ve added. -- 13:29, 18 Apr 2005 (UTC)
:::I always check, and I didn t revert anything after all. Sometimes though it is easier to revert and make the same additions than it is to change it back without reverting, but not this time sa you added lots of version numbers, which is great! 
:::I still don t really like the idea of grouping things together according to CSS level all in one table. As you know some things have been removed from CSS2.1 and 3 that were in CSS 1 and 2, and the definition of some have changed (e.g. content, :hover and :active). Before you arrived the table was exclusivly CSS2.1 - I was going to do a separate table and/or page for CSS3. The aural properties have changed considerably in CSS3, e.g. pause-before now occurs before cue-before, rather than after as it had in CSS2, and rest-before has replaced the old function of pause-before. I also think it s a bad idea to not list CSS3 selectors that are not yet implemented (or maybe they are and we haven t tested for them yet). It is useful information to know they are not implemented on any platform. 14:09, 18 Apr 2005 (UTC)
::::What I removed are selectors that is deprecated andor unsupported. I m sorry if my edits are bothering you. Let s discuss in the article talk page, not my talk page. -- 14:21, 18 Apr 2005 (UTC)
:::::They aren t deprecated though. 14:24, 18 Apr 2005 (UTC)
::::::Oops, I mean or, not and . Typo. -- 14:35, 18 Apr 2005 (UTC)
= Jarte =
Thanks for adding on to this article. It seems more solid/less likely to be replaced with the ad as more people contribute. I was going to slap a VFD tag on it, but I am trying to cultivate a more positive attitude. :) Also, the text appears in enough places on the Web that I was unsure about the copyvio. 20:32, 23 Apr 2005 (UTC)
:No need to thank me. You are the one who made the first change. -- 20:33, 23 Apr 2005 (UTC)
= general stuff =
Hi minghong. First, thanks for your edits to the Opera Browser article. it seriously needs work. Anyway, you have some good taste in electronics, and anime. I ve never known another person who has used Jarte, and you have a lot of the freeware I use too. Also, your anime list is quite extensive. I am, though, a particular fan of the Gundam Seed series. I agree that their others were too involved. anyway, if you want any help possibly forming a temp page for Opera, let me know on my talk page, or just respond here -- [http://webfuziondesign.com WFD]) 17:30, Apr 26, 2005 (UTC)
:I didn t use Jarte. That page exists before. I just link to it so as to complete the list. The Opera page should be reorganized/rewritten so as to match something like... Mozilla Firefox! Obviously I m not a fan of Opera, but I don t hate it either. I don t know much about Opera, but when the temp page is created, let me know. I ll see if I can help there. P.S. The Gundam Seed (Destiny) is now a hot topic in the kuso culture. I recommend this page (a chinese version of 17:43, 26 Apr 2005 (UTC)
::oh, okay. As far as Gundam Seed, the first season ended here in the US a week ago, and I was very disappointed. It also looks like Ghost in the Shell SAC will be ending here soon too. The newest episode is the one where Section 9 disbands, and from what I am guessing, the season is nearing its end. The banner on my cell phone actually reads GITS SAC 2GIG. Anyway, can you tell me when Destiny and 2nd GIG are slated for US release I ve seen some subbed versions of Destiny, but I didn t understand much of it. The subber barely understood Japanese, so the subtitles were all messed up. -- [http://webfuziondesign.com WFD]) 17:51, Apr 26, 2005 (UTC)
:::I don t know then. I get the Chinese-sub from popgo. I m sure there are some good English-sub. Just search in 17:55, 26 Apr 2005 (UTC)
::::okay, thanks. I feel stupid asking this, but where can I find the sysop nomination page I have been following your edits for a few months now, as I generally only view pages related to rock music, anime, and tech stuff. Anyway, you have made some great edits and started a ton of useful pages, and you re pretty much always on here. I would like to nominate you up for adminship, if that s okay with you [http://webfuziondesign.com WFD]) 18:01, Apr 26, 2005 (UTC)
:::::That would be great! Where Ask google [http://www.google.com/searchq=Wikipedia+sysop]. And here is the answer: .
::::::okay, here s the page. please put a link to it on your user and talk page [http://webfuziondesign.com WFD]) 18:19, Apr 26, 2005 (UTC)
= RFA =
Hello, Minghong. On your RFA, I noticed you said you were a deletionism . Just so you know, deletionism refers to the philosophy; one who holds that philosophy is a deletionist . Cheers! — 20:33, 26 Apr 2005 (UTC)
Thanks. I can t find the right word at that moment. -- 00:14, 27 Apr 2005 (UTC)
= Opera =
Concerning the last edit you made to the Opera Browser page. The IP user was correct in removing that part, mainly because the statement accompanying the link was POV, aiming to boost the popularity of Firefox. I see that you put the link back on, but made sure it was NPOV. I just wanted to make sure you knew why it was removed originally. -- [http://webfuziondesign.com WFD]) 20:03, Apr 29, 2005 (UTC)
:Yup I know. I think that Asa is not biased. As he said in the blog post, he was also a loyal Opera user before. In term of user interface, Opera 7 is really bloated and Opera 8 is really cleaned up a lot. -- 20:06, 29 Apr 2005 (UTC)
::Yeah, same here. It wasn t that the link was biased, it was the statement accompanying it. I don t remember offhand, but it was mentioning features Firefox has that Opera doesn t, and it seemed very foreshadowing. Yeah, I see nothing wrong with the link. -- [http://webfuziondesign.com WFD]) 20:24, Apr 29, 2005 (UTC)
You are wrong in replacing Freeware with Proprietary, the second word does not give the most important fact about the license, that it is freeware.
Think about people who come here to get the most important facts about Opera the browser, one of the important facts is that it is freeware.
The software is proprietary, the license is freeware.
Freeware, proprietary A good compromise.
07:40, 19 October 2005 (UTC)
:Freeware, shareware, careware, etc aren t licenses. See 07:44, 19 October 2005 (UTC)
You are playing with words. In real life language Opera is Freeware, it calls itself freeware and is talked about generally as freeware.
In an encyclopedia you should use normal language and write down the most important facts about something. You seem like you are trying to hide the most important fact about the license of Opera.
07:59, 19 October 2005 (UTC)
:Well... you don t seem to get it. I m not anti-Opera. Don t you see the examples like IE and Netscape Freeware is a way to distribute software, not a type of license. If you open the license file of Opera, you don t find the word freeware . Maybe we need a new attribute in the infobox: cost. A proprietary software that costs nothing means freeware. -- 09:28, 19 October 2005 (UTC)
= Tasman =
15:18, 1 May 2005 (UTC)
:Nice. -- 15:22, 1 May 2005 (UTC)
= RFA (no consensus reached) =
Hi minghong, sorry your nomination for adminship failed. I tried my best, but people just weren t voting. I think it was your mention of deletionism that turned them off. Anyway, the beurocrats decided the vote was too close to reach a clear decision, so they dropped it after an extended time of 24 hours, but I m sure you know all about that stuff. Anyway, I ll try nominating you again in a few months, see how that goes. -- [http://webfuziondesign.com WFD]) 12:19, May 4, 2005 (UTC)
:Alright. I should answer the questions better next time. -- 12:58, 4 May 2005 (UTC)
::LOL, yeah. Also, I just completely redid the article on Dave Shea. I m not sure just how into CSS you are, but I thought this might interest you. Apparently the page was up for deletion at one time, and it was just a blank page when I found it.
=Criticisms of Mozilla Firefox=
I laid out my criticism of the article on the talk page like you requested, but you haven t shown up there (even though you reverted the article). What gives 12:37, May 8, 2005 (UTC)
:The change I made is exactly what you mentioned in the talk page. And critism is not comparison. That s why it was reverted. -- 14:04, 8 May 2005 (UTC)
:: The change I made is exactly what you mentioned in the talk page - in fact, you completely reverted all my changes to the article (twenty or more discrete corrections), then repaired several of them and left the others. This is not exactly what I mentioned on the talk page , since I laid out every one of the corrections I made on the talk page. With regards to the other issue you mention, criticism is not comparison , that refers to only one of the edits I made to the page - in fact it was the last one - yet you reverted that along with the 23 other edits I had made to the page. Please respond on the talk page of the article. 12:06, May 11, 2005 (UTC)
=Golden Forum=
I read from your user page that you re a computer science major. I d like to know if you d be interested to help rewrite the 15:01, May 18, 2005 (UTC)
:LOL. Sorry that I never visit Golden Forum. Probably not that notable in an English Wikipedia. -- 15:13, 18 May 2005 (UTC)
::Me neither. But I guess it s notable to have an entry. Language should not be a barrier to anything. — 15:56, May 18, 2005 (UTC)
= How did you... =
Sorry if I m being rude, but HOW did you appear all over the wikipedia, I saw you like, you have edits on history on almost every article I went to. Do you spend 80% of the time on Wikipedia or something -- 02:35, 21 May 2005 (UTC)
:I m currently unemployed. So spend some time on something meaningful. -- 06:51, 21 May 2005 (UTC)
::Unemployed .. hence the reliance on OSS and lack of repsect for commercial sofware -- 22:15, 22 October 2005 (UTC)
:::Don t speak like baka. I m now working as a programmer. See my talk page if you care. -- 06:15, 23 October 2005 (UTC)
=MP4Box=
Why remove it from the see also section of DivX/XviD 12:37, 24 May, 2005 (UTC) :Why should we list every single MPEG-4 software there -- 10:40, 24 May 2005 (UTC) ::It doesn t hurt, and MP4Box is really good for producing fully MPEG-4 ISO compliant *.mp4 files. Besides, these are all very heavily related. :: 12:44, 24 May, 2005 (UTC) :::No. It hurts. Why is MP4BOX a special case There are TONS of software/hardware that can deal with MPEG-4. -- 10:46, 24 May 2005 (UTC) ::::Whether it hurts or not is an opinion :D But MP4Box is becoming very popular now on Doom9, and not every MPEG-4 software has its own article on Wikipedia. Many GUIs are created for MP4Box, and lots of users are asking/requesting new features for MP4Box. :::: 12:53, 24 May, 2005 (UTC) :::::Then list it in
= Video Editing =
Sorry for not signing. Can I ask why you took off the {Video Editing} on the NLE pages 16:56, 24 May 2005
:See the reasons in its 00:48, 25 May 2005 (UTC)
= Date formats =
I noticed that you changed several dates of the format May 17:43, 27 May 2005 (UTC)
:Not really. Only a complete date (with year, month and day) need to be linkified so that the date can be converted in a format specified by the user. Partial date doesn t need to be linkified. -- 17:53, 27 May 2005 (UTC)
::That s all well and good but the style guidelines recommend that dates with just a month and year should have the year linkified. There s no real justification for changing dates formatted in this way to something else. — 21:17, 27 May 2005 (UTC)
= =
Are you interested I hope to get info on Microsoft related topics up2date, accurate and presented neutrally. - 02:35, 10 Jun 2005 (UTC)
= Hey, why did you remove the div tag =
Notes, as in most publications, should be a smaller font size. I don t want to get into a revert war about something so silly, so I m messaging you. - 02:38, 14 Jun 2005 (UTC)
That seems ugly... and other pages that uses footnotes don t use div like that... -- 11:36, 14 Jun 2005 (UTC)
= lots of edits, not an admin =
Hi - I made a list of users who ve been around long enough to have made lots of edits but aren t admins. Since you ve been previously nominated I added an * immediately before your name in ) 18:34, Jun 15, 2005 (UTC)
:I have no problem with that. Thank you! -- 01:33, 16 Jun 2005 (UTC)
=Bryce Harrington=
Hi -- Since you ve worked on the Inkscape article, I thought you might be interested in the fact that the 03:40, 18 Jun 2005 (UTC)
= Main/Seemain changes =
I don t know how the update affected , so I assume you know what you re doing in removing them. However, your edits also removed comments which are intended to help bots identify usage of the templates despite subst: usage. Please don t do that. ( 28 June 2005 06:27 (UTC))
:I was just trying to avoid using HTML in Wikipedia. We should use Wiki syntax at all time. -- 28 June 2005 11:34 (UTC)
:: I believe comments are Wiki syntax which happen to match HTML syntax. Also you should expect templates to contain unusual content, as one of their purposes is to isolate incantations which may need to be adjusted. Templates being used to present particular information may be tuned to that information, such as telling a browser to use a style oriented toward headlines or infoboxes. ( 28 June 2005 17:07 (UTC))
= Just saying Hello =
Hi Martin. I ve seen your name on Wikipedia before, as we edit a lot of the same articles. Then recently, while reading [http://weblogs.mozillazine.org/asa/ Adot s Notblog*], I saw your name there. I also noticed that you have a [http://f2g.net/ .f2g.net] website, just like [http://taestell.f2g.net/ me]. So, anyway, I m just stopping by to say hello, and make note of the odd fact that we have coexisted in three different Internet communities and never bumped into eachother before. -- June 30, 2005 02:30 (UTC)
:LOL. By the way, your site is blank. I wonder why… -- 30 June 2005 04:51 (UTC)
= LimeWire =
Hi Minghong! I want to ask your opinion about some dispute that occured on Limewire page. 4 July 2005 14:25 (UTC)
:Hi! I don t know anything about this software. But according to your explanation, it doesn t seem to be a spyware. -- 4 July 2005 15:29 (UTC)
= Ampshed =
I have never heard the term ampshed for asterisk before. Is it a local term in your circle 01:08, 12 July 2005 (UTC)
:I meant ampersand , which is wrong either. LOL. -- 04:54, 12 July 2005 (UTC)
::Drat. I was hoping for another amusing name for a character (gotta love those bangs, hashes, interrobangs etc.)! 00:24, 15 July 2005 (UTC)
= Date format =
There s no point in going through an article changing the format of wikilinked dates from DD MMM YYYY to MMM DD, YYYY. The formatting of dates is controlled by an individual s . If you want dates to display as July 17, 2005 instead of 17 July 2005 , just change your own settings, not the article content.
:That s not the only purpose of that edit: I remove duplicated links as well. And even through the date format can be controlled by user preference, we should take care of non-wikipedians and make the article more consistent (parts of the article were using MDY while other parts were using DMY). -- 12:34, 17 July 2005 (UTC)
= List of vector graphics editors =
Hmm, you reverted my table... am I right in understanding that you think the that article should have no descriptive value You stated, keep detail in comparison page ... which, seems like creating a comparison page would be incredibly redundant. Considering a few of them do not have have wikipedia pages it makes their entries completely useless... I believe that system makes sense for a cumbersome subject like operating systems, however for this... not exactly. 17:35, 19 July 2005 (UTC)
:Just like the 00:13, 20 July 2005 (UTC)
= F2G.net update =
From [http://cp.f2g.net/ cp.f2g.net]: : The free hosting service is undergoing a Denial Of Service (DOS) attack since Thursday 28th. As a result, free accounts may be unreachable (host not found/timeout error). Please do not report this as an error since we are aware of the attack.
: A DOS attack occurs when an attacker deliberately sends a huge amount of requests to a web server it order to make it unavailable. The free hosting service is not protected against this so the websites should remain unreachable as long as the attack lasts. See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Denial_of_service for further details about DOS attacks.
: Premium hosting accounts are not affected.
Hey, at least they link to Wikipedia! -- 04:46, August 1, 2005 (UTC)
:Yup. I m aware of this as well. Those attackers are just too annoying. -- 11:51, 1 August 2005 (UTC)
= Mozilla 1.7.11 =
I did not mixed it up, [ftp://ftp.mozilla.org/pub/mozilla.org/mozilla/releases/mozilla1.7.11/ there it is] and the [http://www.mozilla.org/releases/mozilla1.7.11/changelog.html changelog]. -- 14:12, August 1, 2005 (UTC)
:But it isn t listed in http://www.mozilla.org/releases/ yet, so it s better to wait for the official announcement from mozilla.org. -- 14:47, 1 August 2005 (UTC)
= Mozilla Corporation =
Right now, the Mozilla Corporation is only productizing Firefox and Thunderbird. Here s a quote from the briefing I was in: Right now we productize Firefox andd Thunderbird, I would guess that will be the continued state of things with the corporation. This may change in the future but at the moment it s only Firefox and Thunderbird that fall under the remit of the Corporation. Everything else (Camino, SeaMonkey, whatever) stays under the Foundation. - 15:31, 5 August 2005 (UTC)
:Don t be so short-sighted. The article should be based on the written fact (listed in the reference section). There is nothing to argue. -- 16:05, 5 August 2005 (UTC)
= List of JavaScript engines =
I find it strange that you reverted a precision I added about SpiderMonkey being the official JavaScript language, from Mozilla Foundation, derived from original Netscape lineage in the article List of JavaScript engines:
*SpiderMonkey — the official JavaScript engine C library of the Mozilla Foundation, can be used to expand arbitrary C and C++ applications; Used by Mozilla, Mozilla Firefox, Camino, and other list of web browsers#Gecko-based browsers
By curiosity, in your opinion, what is wrong with this statement JavaScript was started by Brendan Eich when working at Netscape and Mozilla SpiderMonkey results from that work. (also see notes on ).
Thanks,
-- 06:01, 25 August 2005 (UTC)
= Internet Explorer 7b1 screenshot =
Would you mind replacing the current screenshot with the one showing Wikipedia mainpage Thanks. -- 18:24, 3 September 2005 (UTC) *I wish I had gotten the Internet Explorer 7b1, but no. I just got the screenshot off [http://www.winsupersite.com/reviews/ie7_preview_1.asp Paul Thurrott s SuperSite for Windows], whcih seems to be a trustable site. I ll maybe ask him to do the Wiki screenshot, or do it myself if I can get it from somewhere. -- 18:27, September 3, 2005 (UTC) **Alright. I thought it was taken by you. -- 18:27, 3 September 2005 (UTC)
I see no reason for adding IE10 screenshot to History of Internet Explorer, there re already too many at the top there. I m now planning to add an IE20 screenshot (it currently has no IE2x screenshots), and it will have absolutley no space to fit in.
Would you be kind enough to remove IE10 screenshot you added to 15:31, 6 September 2005 (UTC)
:This is an article about the detail history of IE. So I think it deserves a place here. FYI, the image is not created by me. I just copy it from the IE article to here. -- 00:03, 7 September 2005 (UTC)
::That s obvious, because this image is created by me Just when there will be enough text to place all the images, it can be moved back into the article. I now added IE20 screenshot, I think it deserves the place more. See also 05:14, 7 September 2005 (UTC)
Also isn t it better at least to add link to 15:37, 6 September 2005 (UTC)
:Fixed.
:: Ugh, there s a template explicitly for this purpose... Changed text to use the template.
= SVG Support, Partial =
Minghong, I had a question about what you consider partial SVG support. On Comparison of layout engines (graphics) you have marked Gecko as partially supporting SVGT, B and Full. I agree with this because Mozilla SVG project has stated that they don t yet support some modules (animation being the biggest one). Question is whether Opera carries true 100% support of the SVG-T 1.1 Spec. For instance: The SVG-T spec states that all conforming SVG viewers are required to display SVG anywhere they display raster, for instance in CSS background-image. Opera 8 does not support this (I have filed bug reports though).
I guess I m just having trouble distinguishing between partial support , 100% support with bugs and true 100% support (which is an ideal but nearly impossible to achieve). By the strictest definition, no one (not even Adobe SVG Viewer) truly supports any SVG spec 100% yet. SVG is a highly complex spec and true 100% conformance might never be achievable, we ll always have bugs and things missed. Yet SVG is still quite usable in Opera and in Mozilla and in Adobe SVG Viewer...I just don t want to give the wrong impression to SVG users on whichever way we decide. Sorry if this is rambling, just thought I d see your thoughts. 19:19, 9 September 2005 (UTC)
:Opera was marked not in Partial because it claims to fully support SVGT/B (1.0). I think it at least completed all the modules required by the spec, right If Mozilla complete all the modules required, then I think it will be ok to mark with version number (no matter there are bugs or not in its implementation). -- 03:54, 10 September 2005 (UTC)
= You restored version 4 s image =
What s the point in displaying it twice on a page -- 06:15, 10 September 2005 (UTC)
:Well. The article looks like missing something if it is removed. -- 09:07, 10 September 2005 (UTC)
::Is it possible to replace it with some other screenshot, say 13:13, 10 September 2005 (UTC)
::Unless you express your opinion on this, I m changing the bottom image to 11:47, 11 September 2005 (UTC)
= Comma in dates =
You don t have to insert a comma between date and year it s inserted automatically. E.g.: 11:44, 11 September 2005 (UTC)
:Thanks for the tip. -- 14:35, 11 September 2005 (UTC)
=Listing images for deletion=
When you list an image on 21:24, 12 September 2005 (UTC)
:Oh thanks. I didn t know that. P.S. Some of the articles created by me were deleted without letting me know. What was it different -- 05:54, 18 September 2005 (UTC)
= User Categorization =
You were listed on the for instructions. 18:46, 18 September 2005 (UTC)
= Windows Picture and Fax Viewer=
Thank you so much for your good editing of he subject page. I appreciate it. If you see other improvements, please feel free. 20:45, 18 September 2005 (UTC)
= Past tense in English =
With complex predicate (not sure it s called this way, but it doesn t matter), only the first verb is changed to reflect the tense. E.g. I saw him come (as in Daniel 8:7), but never I saw him came ; you saw him go (as in Acts 1:11), but never you saw him went . -- 03:22, 20 September 2005 (UTC)
P.S. and past tense of rise is rose , not rised , anyway
:Oops. Thanks for fixing that. -- 06:20, 20 September 2005 (UTC)
= SQL isn t relational =
It seems (like most people, don t worry, vendors are working hard to misinform us) that you didn t get my point in renaming and splitting relational into SQL and relational. SQL isn t relational at all, have never been and never will be. Once it even tried too, but it gave up since at least ISO SQL:2003. AFAIK only FirstSQL still tries to reach relational sanity, and to what extent is doubtful.
So it is just a question of putting references like SQL aren t here anymore and tidying up the rest. Feel free, I won t be able to tackle this right now.
-- 17:10, 21 September 2005 (UTC)
You are quite right, ORDBMS should be fixed and renamed. Just that I can t do it today... will do tomorrow God willing, and if you don t do that first.
-- 02:18, 22 September 2005 (UTC)
= Visual Basic Classic wikibook =
I see you have contributed to the StarBasic article on Wikipedia. Any chance you would like to join in editing the wikibook: http://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/Programming:Visual_Basic_Classic -- 11:07, 30 September 2005 (UTC)
:Oops, did I Probably… but I didn t know VB actually. Sorry. I m a C++/JS/PHP/Java programmer. -- 14:21, 30 September 2005 (UTC)
=More SQL worries=
Just a heads up, I ve started the process of restoring SDBMS to RDBMS, as that is what the world uses, and anything else would be confusing to people who use Wikipedia. :) Feel free to pitch in and correct /revert anything that needs it. I moved the hyper-technically correct RDBMS to truly relational database management systems and put up move requests on the relevant pages as I cannot move them back without ruining the history. 15:55, 18 October 2005 (UTC)
:Good. I ll try to help when I m free. -- 01:35, 19 October 2005 (UTC)|
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