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I ve noticed that this template creates other templates when making a PortalPage. The current way the box portal skeleton works is to create subpages that are used to make the boxes. Could this way be used here as well. There would not be so many templates made that are only used on one page. 19:41, 18 August 2005 (UTC)

= Use at the top of page =

After about a month of editing articles at Wikipedia, Im finally getting a general understanding of how the articles are related to each other and how to navigate to them. And thats only because Ive spent an inordinate amount of time trying to figure it out. Now, you might say that Im just particularly slow in such things as finding my own aspects of the situation, but I dare say the navigation structure of this web site deserves at least half the credit. Its not that a very impressive amount of thought and effort hasnt gone into addressing the issue, but I believe most visitors would agree it still needs a little work.

The categorization schemes at focus on Wikipedia as an encyclopedia that happens to be on a web site, while navigation schemes focus on Wikipedia as a web site that happens to hold an encyclopedia. Categorization schemes focus mainly on the logic, while navigation schemes focus mainly on the usability of a web site. As a web site, I would expect Wikipedia to have a top-level navigation scheme, based on the primary categorization scheme, that would help me move about logically and quickly.

I d like to propose the use of 06:29, 9 September 2005 (UTC)

I ve received no replies regarding the revert of adding 14:22, 11 September 2005 (UTC)

: Hi, this one is even worse, as it still spans two lines on 1024x768. I personally never use the second line of the navigation bar and some people complain that the entire portal page is too large, so I really want to keep it as small as possible. -- 17:28, 11 September 2005 (UTC)

:I don t know why, but my monitor is set at 1024x768 and it displays on one line. That was my objective. How many items are on the second line for your display I like the idea of portal pages as being more than some type of list, otherwise, why bother My ideal solution would be to have a one-line browse bar at the top of each page (see developed for such a purpose. It includes my edits to make a one-line version.

In the meantime, are you okay with some expanded one-line version that includes browse pages 18:17, 11 September 2005 (UTC)

: Shouldn t those links belong in the navigation box on the side Vertical should be used sparingly. The Other link is on the second line. I also don t like the small caps/italic. And I think the abbreviations are not very clear. -- 18:39, 11 September 2005 (UTC)

::I removed the smallcaps/italics. I must be missing something, because the second line doesn t look like Other to me. Top or side doesn t matter much to me, as long as they re available. Two lines or terse abbreviations is the tradeoff. There would be slightly more room on the sidebar, but I don t have access to that. Here s a revised version. Does it still take up two lines on your screen 19:23, 11 September 2005 (UTC)

::: It s on one line now. -- 21:10, 11 September 2005 (UTC)