Who/Discussion log/August 2005 |
=August 2005=
==Jtkiefer s RFA==
Thanks for your support on my RFA. ----- 05:27, August 30, 2005 (UTC)
== Women composers ==
Okay, that was a rather strange reaction. This should be subject of an RFC or CENT or something, just like GBLT things etc. 13:16, August 29, 2005 (UTC)
== ==
Hi, yes an anon created the sub-page for a Cfd. We do not use individual sub-pages, so I moved the entry to the correct place 20:59, 28 August 2005 (UTC)
:I moved it to a subpage of the log page and left a note at its talk page. There s no need to go to the trouble of merging page histories (which would also look weird on the history, since it s not a straight copy-and-paste move). -- 21:05, 28 August 2005 (UTC)
== Esperanza ==
Hello, I m trying to show some people off my friends list a new society, somewhat similar to ) 06:23, 28 August 2005 (UTC)
== mentioned you ==
Hi - Just thought I d let you know I mentioned you at ) 22:39, August 27, 2005 (UTC) :Hi, thanks for the note. No I hadn t had a chance, power out, and I have not visiting VP as much as I should. Thanks for the support and compliment. Cheers. 22:49, 27 August 2005 (UTC)
== WoW ==
That s the least I could do to show my appreciation. I was busy watching a football game while Willy attack our Wikipedia. I really think that someone needs to get on the developer s case. In fact, I think I ll go straight to Jimbo. Cheers, 04:07, August 27, 2005 (UTC)
== A Barnstar for You ==
== Hurricane ==
Ok, I have to ask: What are you doing in Southern FL in the middle of a hurricane Of course, if you live there, just smack me. -- 20:31, 25 August 2005 (UTC)
20:15, 26 August 2005 (UTC)
*Stay safe, though Katrina has probably moved on to the Panhandle by now... (I know how no power feels, I weathered Charley, Frances, and Jeanne in Orlando last year (groan)) 22:18, 26 August 2005 (UTC)
**thanks. Yea a trailer got squished not far from mine, but i m fine. i have a generator, just waiting for trees to be moved to get to it.. 22:20, 26 August 2005 (UTC)
***You re using your generator to run a computer! Keep the AC and fridge on! (he he, just joking)... anyways, good luck. 23:10, 27 August 2005 (UTC)
****Actually, no not yet. Over at sis s house, my generator is blocked in by another tree, so have no power at my house :( 02:21, 28 August 2005 (UTC)
== Please UNBLOCK me, I am NOT willy ==
I was assisting in the reverts of the latest moves. check my user history, or ask around.. Thanks. 18:50, 25 August 2005 (UTC) *I know. Working on it. -- 18:52, 25 August 2005 (UTC) **Dahnk you!!!! At least I know what it does when you get blocked now. 18:54, 25 August 2005 (UTC) ***No problem. It was luck that I saw it. I was going to undelete millennial wikipedians (see my talk page for why), and I saw you were blocked. Although I would have seen when I checked my watchlist... -- 18:59, 25 August 2005 (UTC)
Sorry about that, it was careless of me. -- 18:56, 25 August 2005 (UTC) *S ok :) 18:58, 25 August 2005 (UTC)
==Willy on Wheels vandal==
I, , hereby award you this WikiDefender Barnstar for blocking off a Willy on Wheels incarnate.
Take care, 15:36, 25 August 2005 (UTC)
:Thanks for the message, I give them to both of you all. Take care, 16:03, 25 August 2005 (UTC)
==Stuff==
When you stated I was permently banned you should perhaps know theat I was banned by Jimmy Wales because he has problems understanding words. If you doubt me ask him for a copy of the IRC log. I will however continue to contribute to Wikipedia as I see fit and as the rules allow me todo. I most definteltly will not be being confined by illinformed people, who don t actually know the facts. Irate____ I will abide by the rules but I will not respect them. jwales then you are now permanently banned from wikipedia jwales goodbye Irate____ do you under stand what abide actually means. I know I can t spell but atleast I now what words I.m using mean. jwales doesn t matter jwales I get the picture jwales you won t change your attitude jwales you ll continue flaming people as much as you can get away with under your twisted interpretations of th rules jwales you have no intention to adhere to a higher standard of behavior jwales so, you re gone jwales sorry Irate____ I ll stick to the riles but I won;t like them is not enough for you jwales this is a private community jwales not at all jwales not even close
If anyone want the full script I will be happy to provide it, in order to prevent Wales continued dishonesty.-- 12:21, 25 August 2005 (UTC)
== ==
Hi, thanks for all of your previous help. I noticed your pearle code dumps some of the bad interwiki links here. I am not familiar with all or most of the interwiki links, haven t done anything with them yet. What do i need to check for and correct to fix theses I noticed the category says only HTML should be comingled, I assume that may mean there are characters that do not belong. Thanks again. 19:54, 24 August 2005 (UTC) *For now I have disabled this check in my bot, until I further understand what interwiki links need to be fixed and how. I cleaned up the ones it stuck in this directory. Can I get a copy of the langlist that it references in the code I did a search but didn t find it. Thanks. 02:46, 25 August 2005 (UTC)
Sorry, I forgot to document that. I just added the following to : # If running on a Wikimedia site, you must download http://www.wikimedia.org/langlist on a regular basis and somehow load it into $langlist in fixCategoryInterwiki() instead of /home/beland/wikipedia/pearle-wisebot/langlist.
The tag will get added if:
I hope that helps. -- 03:02, 25 August 2005 (UTC)
:Oh, and this is also triggered by because that template contains a category reference. In this case, just remove the flag; it s a false alarm. -- 03:05, 25 August 2005 (UTC)
== Cheers ==
Sorry for not responding earlier. I ve removed the temporary test template... not sure why I added it. - 07:52, 24 August 2005 (UTC)
== WikiBreak ==
Yeah I was pissed when I typed up that goodbye note but then I realized... My friends outnumber my vandals :) Thanks for the beer, I ve added it to my 23:21, 23 August 2005 (UTC)
== ==
with :Do you still use this template It looks like a templatized version of ~~~~. I wanted to ask you to userfy it, rather than me putting it on 09:36, 23 August 2005 (UTC) :I just deleted it. Thanks. 09:54, 23 August 2005 (UTC)
== re: CFD index ==
The bot will be now adding the index automatically to any subpages that are 7 days old. -- 20:06, 23 August 2005 (UTC)
== No consensus ==
Forgot to tell you my newest idea. When marking discussions as no consensus, I was going to put in parenthesis (No change). Too many times people have complained because not one person voted to keep (perhaps a mix of deletes and renames), and since it was closed as No consensus (keep) , they get a little peeved. I figure if it s marked as No consensus (no change) , it ll go a little farther in explaining why nothing happened to the category. Of course, since you re beating me to the punch now on most of the discussions, this may be a moot point. :) -- 13:16, 22 August 2005 (UTC) *Thats a good idea, and I was actually thinking/hoping that you would change any closures that I did that you fealt was in err. I sleep most of the day, so I figured I would just do the weekend ones and some of the weekly s, not to take your entire fun ;) Plus I pretty much figure you would check over all the ones I do anyways, or at least hope you would, thats why I dont archive them. The only thing I was slightly concerned about, was me listing them in cleanup, if they arent deleted, you wouldnt know which ones needed to be done, well w/o looking in the cfd history. As far as mistakes on that part, I figured they could be undeleted if need be. 18:13, 22 August 2005 (UTC)
== CFR ==
I m not sure if I like it, because frequently alternate naming is suggested in the CFR discussion. But I suppose there s no harm in this. 08:01, August 22, 2005 (UTC)
== re: congrats ==
Thanks. I ve tried out delete on some of the emptied cats. I guess if you get in my way I can try out block :) (I seriously doubt I ll be doing much blocking - it s a little disturbing actually - the block button shows up right next to talk next to the user name on every entry on my watchlist). -- ) 19:27, August 21, 2005 (UTC) :I m sure it asks for confirm, and I have no doubt that it works. Just seems like it shouldn t come up enough to warrant being so in my face. But, thanks for the offer. -- ) 19:34, August 21, 2005 (UTC) ::I m actually a classic kind of guy. I assume I could find it there, too, but I m not sure it s worth the effort. Thanks for the suggestion (and the support). -- ) 19:45, August 21, 2005 (UTC)
== latest CfD day entry ==
Hi - Did you mean for the August 21 CfD day header to be in a new format It would affect the CfD indexer tool I wrote (but not ) 02:51, August 21, 2005 (UTC) :My bad - I saw you d added the link to the main CfD file, and that the day file had no entries yet and assumed it was as you d added it (without checking the history). It probably doesn t actually make much difference, and the new format is technically better (since it displays according to the user s date format preference). Do you know of anything that depends on the existing format -- ) 03:23, August 21, 2005 (UTC) ::Do you know about ) 03:46, August 21, 2005 (UTC) :::As far as I know, the only functional difference is that HopeSeekr s version also generates the by date index (which I m not entirely sure is tremendously useful). S/he was not aware of my version and independently created another one. Being a compiled C++ program, it may well run much faster but since 99% of the real time when running it is spent fetching the by day articles I don t actually think the execution speed matters very much. As I say, s/he and I have talked some. I m not sure we agree, but I think collaborating on one that uses the raw wikisource (rather than the generated HTML) and is a script (rather than a compiled program) is the right answer. -- ) 17:32, August 21, 2005 (UTC)
= Pearle update =
Hi, I m trying to run a test run with your Pearle script, but I don t know why It s giving me this specific error. getPage(User:Who/Test1): Null text! It s receiving the page, and putting it in the [http://questdesign.net/whobot-log.txt log file]. I uncommented the test section, so its only running that sub, but I didn t see anything to indicate having to use command aruguments, so I am just running it w/o any. I see where its dumping it:
if (($text =~ m/^s*$/) and ($::nullOK ne yes )) { myLog ( getPage($target): Null text! ); myLog --- $reply --- ; die ( getPage($target): Null text! ); }
As if you already didn t know that :), but its been awhile since I ve written perl code, so I m not getting the if (($text =~ m/^s*$/) argument. What is it looking for, or have you updated the code since any more s/w upgrades Appreciate any help, thanks. 21:36, 20 August 2005 (UTC)
There was a site change yesterday that tweaked the HTML on the edit page in a way that breaks Pearle. You should have a line that looks like this:
$reply =~ m%(.*)%s;
Except that you should be missing the s* after the 80 . Try adding it and see if this solves your problem. There are other updates, as well, which I will upload shortly. -- 04:06, 21 August 2005 (UTC)
*Hi, thanks for the reply. I made the change and still get the same error. I looked at the log and that particular area has a carriage return in it:
I attempted to adjust that line of code to catch that, but it didnt seem to help, although I thought the s* would handle that as well. Maybe one of the other fixes you already applied to your code thats not in the version for d/l. I ll play with it some more and see. 17:29, 21 August 2005 (UTC) *I found the error, since I was only using the test sub, it wasn t setting nullOK to yes like the other subs, so I added that in, and it worked fine. Now to learn all of your sub commands, I may just change them all. Thanks. 05:39, 22 August 2005 (UTC)
::Well, setting nullOK to yes essentially overrides this test. ($text =~ m/^s*$/) just checks to see if the response parser has gotten any wikitext from the download, other than just whitespace. (s is any whitespace character, ^ is beginning of string , $ is end of string , and * is zero or more .) I put this in because usually the page I m trying to edit is not supposed to be blank, so it s not unlikely that something has gone horribly wrong, and the program should halt. This can happen if something in the edit form has changed, such that my regular expressions are no longer pulling the right portion (as did happen on August 10). This test is also triggered when pages are protected from editing, which is sometimes useful. In some situations, Pearle does edit blank pages, which is why I put in the override. There s a danger that if Pearle incorrectly gets empty text from a page which is not empty, that it could blank the page by accident, so the override should be used with caution. (I m not sure if you were trying to edit a blank page or not, actually.)
::Oh, and I just posted an update, in case there are any other small fixes that you might find useful. There are also some new features which I am currently putting to use. (Yay...) -- 06:09, 22 August 2005 (UTC)
== CfD electricity ==
I ll look into reorganizing the cats, but ought to find a project s permission to ask first. I think the diagram in , that unify the two distinct physical concepts into the one larger one. Electrochemistry ought probably to be somewhere beneath electricity in the hierarchy, although I wouldn t have much problem with lifting it out of that hierarchy altogether.
To address your technical point: ...but that s really magnetic induction . Not quite. See magnetic field. It s an odd property of having electrons in motion (i.e. an electrical current) that they also produce a magnetic field. If you have a current flowing through a wire, there ll be a magnetic field around it too.
Magnetic induction is the reverse effect. If you have an otherwise-dead wire and wave a magnet around near it, a current will begin to flow in the wire (as long as you close the circuit). The alternative, but equivalent, effect is to keep the magnet still and move the wire around. So magnetic induction produces electricity, while electricity produces magnetism. Slightly loose technical language, but you get the picture.
So if you plug a wire into a power supply and make electrons move, you get magnetism. If you make a magnet move near a wire, you get electricity. But once you have electrical current flowing...you have magnetism: the two can t be properly separated! This duality between electricity and magnetism (and deeper things like the fact that things like light travel through a field containing both — the electromagnetic field) means that 01:05, 21 August 2005 (UTC) :I am sorry . That must have sounded horribly patronising. You must have spent a long time at University (or do you call it school) to have collected two bachelor s degrees! Anyway, yeah, I think there s an engineering project (there s certainly an engineering portal) so maybe I ll look through the cats and then take any ideas I might have there. I also 01:28, 21 August 2005 (UTC)
== Ha ==
I was just about to leave you a message when it said You have new messages. and I saw you left me one. If you got vandals, leave me a message, its faster than AIV or ViP. Unless of course I m out. When I m in I ll do it Asap. Blocking is fun >xP 23:56, 20 August 2005 (UTC) *Ah, I thought you had one of those fake you have messages on your talk page, so I ignored it when I replied on your page.. 00:00, 21 August 2005 (UTC) **I sometimes have that. Sometimes not. Anyways, see 00:42, 21 August 2005 (UTC)
== Fame and fortune! ==
[http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.phptitle=User_talk:Splash&diff=0 !] Possibly a little too. You know, I hadn t realised I have such an auspicious pseudonym. Not only is it a Las Vegas show, it also, to quote a disgruntled new editor an article on whose forum I had voted to delete, the name of a sucky Tom Hanks movie . 05:15, 20 August 2005 (UTC)
== rfa & pearle ==
Hi - Thanks for the vote of confidence at rfa (and I suspect it will be your turn again fairly soon). Have you thought about getting a copy of pearle from beland and using a bot account for the uncategorizing work you do user:whobot seems to be available. Once upon a time I did a fair amount of orphaned category parenting, which sometimes involves similar tasks so I know it can certainly be relaxing. On the other hand, you do enough of it that I d worry about ) 02:11, August 20, 2005 (UTC)
== ==
Thank you for the taking time to comment on my recent RFA nomination. Your support is greatly appreciated. 19:13, 19 August 2005 (UTC)
==Nothing to do with wikipedia==
If I m not being rude, how did you serve (where/doing what) in the Navy 04:52, 19 August 2005 (UTC)
== CFD: Washingon, District of Columbia ==
If you re going to merge two entries in that way, please keep the discussion untangled now as to who is approving/opposing what. 16:11, 18 August 2005 (UTC))
== Help ==
Hi, sorry to bother you about this little doubt: Do i get an admin to delete the old category once decision had been made to rename it This is with regard to renaming 15:36, 18 August 2005 (UTC)
: Hi, no, we list it at the bottom of WP:CFD in cleanup and after the articles get moved, by whoever, then an admin will delete the category. So feel free to help move the articles, but dont worry about the cat, it will get deleted :) Who¿ 15:40, 18 August 2005 (UTC)
::Ahh everything makes sense now. Really thanks! -- 15:44, 18 August 2005 (UTC)
== Umbrella ==
Sure, no problem. 11:15, August 18, 2005 (UTC)
== Uncategorical thanks ==
Anyone who spends much time with categories is quickly and deeply aware of the faults and limitations of our current system. Thanks for for helping to keep the overburdened schema together. Cheers, - 09:25, August 18, 2005 (UTC)
== Native American languages Cfru ==
with :Hi, thank you so much for using on these cat s, makes our job much easier. Normally I go and fix them all for easier reference. Thanks again. 22:29, 17 August 2005 (UTC)
Hi Who, you re welcome about my use of 23:31, August 17, 2005 (UTC)
== rv ==
with :Thanks for fixing the vandalism :) Cheers. 05:32, 17 August 2005 (UTC)
Hey, you re welcome! Keep up the good work! 05:40, 17 August 2005 (UTC)
== PR Categories ==
with :Hi, I just wanted to appologize if I came off a bit rash. Its difficult to do some of the mass re-cat s, and I try to do the best I can in proper cat ing and fixing errors as I go. That particular CFD was not so cut & dry. We collaborated and thought it should probably be deleted, but I compared it to other cat s and kept it with its current config. Thanks for your input. Cheers. 01:56, 17 August 2005 (UTC)
:Hey, just a heads up, there are a lot of articles with only one cat, the one I m removing :( So just to let you know, I m not dumping them in , just figured its better there than with no cat, if I have time, I plan on going back and cleaning them up. Unfortunately, the users who run the bots, arent always around, so a few of us do most of the re-cat ing done in CFD, plus the bots just remove cats, its too time consuming for the users to have them find suitable replacements. 21:45, 17 August 2005 (UTC)
Thanks for the heads up. These articles can all be put in . -- Reinyday, 21:54, 17 August 2005 (UTC) :K, thanks for the cat. 22:02, 17 August 2005 (UTC)
The open source software can go into . -- Reinyday, 21:58, 17 August 2005 (UTC)
== Thanks YET again ==
with
Enjoy! 05:36, 17 August 2005 (UTC) :Hey, thanks for your highest award.. Assuming that s still your highest :) Sorry I didn t thank you earlier, I was really buzy with Wiki than forgot :( . 10:54, 18 August 2005 (UTC)
== Category name changes ==
with :Just to let you know that you are on my list for screwing up the name changes a while ago, when 01:11, 17 August 2005 (UTC)
First off, I would like to ask you to please re-read , some of the were not founded as schools, and I did my best to categorize them appropriately. Rather than leaving me a rude comment about me being on your list, you could have just corrected the error, and informed me nicely about the mistake. Thank you for pointing out my error, and I invite you to participate in such mass moves in the future. 01:22, 17 August 2005 (UTC)
== ==
with :Hi, please leave messages/comments for other users on their talk page. I have moved your comments from 09:40, 7 August 2005 (UTC)
==Concerning Who==
with :Hi, we haven t had much chance to communicate since my RFA and that template deal. I was just wanting to stop by and say hi, and make sure there wasn t anything in particular that came up between us. Not that I think there is, just making sure. Other than my less the normal participation in Category titles, although I have reasoning for that. I really hate doing this on your talk page, not so private :) but you didn t have email from users turned on. Well anyway, good eve. 07:56, 7 August 2005 (UTC)
Don t worry about it! Good to hear from you again :) 08:54, August 7, 2005 (UTC)
== Thanks for your support ==
with Thank you for supporting my recent RfA. I was surprised and humbled by the number of positives votes. I ll be monitoring RfA regularly from now on and will look for a chance to pay it forward . Cheers, -- 02:16, 7 August 2005 (UTC)
*You re very welcome and congrats!! I think you will do a great job. 09:18, 7 August 2005 (UTC)
==signatures==
with :Who, I m not an expert on this, so how can i make a signature with differnet colors
Hi, its fairly simple. First I ll start with regular html, as I do not know of your level of experience. the colors are done with the font tag like so:
this
Of course I didn t use the word red, I used the hexadecimal equivalent.
Now to change your signature, click on Prefrences at the top of your wiki page. Now on that first page under User data it says Nickname , this is where you put your custom signature. If you just want to add to it, or change the colors, leave the box Raw unchecked. You can simply add to the end of your signature by adding code such as:
Heddfones]] [[User talk:Heddfones|- talk to me :note, I there are NO brackets at the beginning, but added before the User talk . ::Which makes this:
Which the talk to me would be a link to your talk page (note, it doesnt work if its already on your talk page )
You have to experiment with how you want it to look. If you want somthting before your name, you have to check the Raw signature box. If you do this, you have to put the entire link in. Example:
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